Rule Suggestion - limitation of style use

By MissEevee. 16/08/09, 12:29 pm

Admin: thanks.
although tbh still think this whole thing is just...stupid.
sorry.

Kitten: i'm trying to be oak. really i am.
but this is so stupid. i cannot stress how ridiculous it seems to me.
i'm trying to remain civil and logical as well.

all i have noticed from this site so far is overreation.
this is just another example.

@Rolly's post: see?
another problem with definition of legibility.
what would you define as legible?
the poll question is now redundant, because i have always thought my posts were reasonably sized and easily legible.

anyway.
i withdraw.
and since i was the problem in the first place (even though you were all very careful not to say it directly) this can end.
well done mods, another problem solved.

By Pura. 16/08/09, 12:30 pm

@ Jess OTL;; I lost my post when it got locked Dx.

@ Kiki, that sized font is used making a sentance or two hidden, if proper posts were that small then I would not bother reading the post.

There was something else I said, but I forgot D:

By **Admin**. 16/08/09, 12:31 pm

8D

Posts are made to communicate information. Not to be aesthetically pleasing.

By Willuknight. 16/08/09, 12:31 pm

The reason i had it worded that way originally JVCA, was that people were arguing that Evee's use of style was perfectly readible, while in my opinion, and that of others, it was not.

Changing the poll question to what it is now, brings into question the issue of who or what decides the degree of legibility of text.

...but whatever.

MissEvee, if you like reading small centered posts, then why shouldn't you make all the text on the forum appear like this, because you like this style better (as you have said repeatedly.

Why are you trying to get your own posts, which (hopefully) you have already read, be the only posts that are in this style.

By Pura. 16/08/09, 12:33 pm

@ Will, so in other words, no matter what the question and options are, it will always bring about another question sweatdrop

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honestly to me it doesn't matter what we want the mods are just going to change it to how they want it anyway. personally this is all stupid. it's just a font size there's no need to bring in all this drama. it really could have been settled by changing it and posting an announcement instead of creating this thread.

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how about every one chills out and stops creating stupid rules that is just going to cause more and more work for everyone.

Heres a solution if you cant read it and desperately need to why not use the zoom function on your browser? Its not a difficult thing to do.

By Willuknight. 16/08/09, 12:35 pm

@JPura : probably. You can't really please everyone at the same time, and the people that are critizing the wording are only doing so because they're having a problem with logically arguing the point that it represents.

By Freddie. 16/08/09, 12:35 pm

Eevee ~ Please don't be so... obstructive.
Saying that it was directed purely at you is almost like your TRYING to get us to blame you.
Others can be cited for similar problems, like RainbowMoonDust and her colors.

It feels almost like you and KiKi are just...
Well, like you want all this drama and fighting.

Also; Legibility is 12. The Publishing Authority of New Zealand tell us as much.

By Freddie. 16/08/09, 12:36 pm

@Balmy ~ So, 490 people have to zoom, instead of half a dozen people maing they're font bigger?

By MissEevee. 16/08/09, 12:40 pm

Admin wrote:: 8D

Posts are made to communicate information. Not to be aesthetically pleasing.

and hair is there to protect and warm your head.
doesn't mean you don't want it to look nice too.

Will: do you really think i have a problem arguing anything logically?
i have been nothing but logical up to this point.
logically, the question is pointless because we'd need to define legible.
of course people don't wany illegible posts in their forums!
mine aren't illegible, and this is my point and has been all along.
i think the poll question should accurately reflect the situation, that's all.
i'm sure you think the same.

Fred: the last thing i've been is obstructive up 'til now.
and please don't lump me in with Kiki, who is obviously trying to start a fight.
i have been trying to ignore the drama and stupidity, in favour of logically approaching the problem.

i have even said that i give in.
how is that obstructive in any way?
and it has been quite blatantly aimed at me.
please don't try to argue that point any more, because there's no way this whole thing has been aimed at anyone else.
just because you can think of one example of someone doing something similar (which hans't been banned), doesn't mean that it hasn't been quite obviously been against one person.

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I wasn't trying to start a fight....Although it may seem that way. please don't tie me to miss eevee, because if i said something wrong I'm sorry but don't be mean to miss eevee because of me ;_;

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FRED wrote:: Syne, I believe, actually has the page zoomed, just to read size 12.

actually size 12 is totally fine for my eyes. :'D anything below a 10 gets slightly straining and i'll either have to move in close and squint, or zoom the page.

just fyi; i wear glasses almost 24/7, including to sleep and in the shower. without glasses on i have to hold something about 5cm in front of my face to be able to see it clearly. that's how bad my eyesight is. ^^;

/ninjas out again. ;;

ETA;
/gives eevee love. >: <3?

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@fred if you want to read the post yes other wise just skip it

By **Admin**. 16/08/09, 12:48 pm

x kiki-chan x wrote:: honestly to me it doesn't matter what we want the mods are just going to change it to how they want it anyway. personally this is all stupid. it's just a font size there's no need to bring in all this drama. it really could have been settled by changing it and posting an announcement instead of creating this thread.

EXCUSE ME?!? I don't know if you've noticed, but we actually haven't DONE anything other than changing the "Small" font size from 9 to a much more legible 11 - something that can easily be changed back and was suggested by MissEevee herself. I am taking serious personal offense from this, you are blatantly calling all mods selfish and inflexible. Please THINK before you post.

Note that we're not just moderators, we are PEOPLE and I am posting this as a PERSON. :/

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see what i mean? I really should leave. everything i say is offensive v.v;;

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@kiki
i'm not trying to bully you on this, but maybe have a pause and rethink your post before posting it? ^^; i have to do this a lot myself, and i still sometimes do slip up and manage to offend people, but taking a moment to rethink your post really does help? trying to be a martyr doesn't really help your case. ;;

By Squeaky. 16/08/09, 12:52 pm

Seriously is it even worth it anymore?

YES the font is rather annoying but i mean come on this is just over the top.
I agree that this could have been handled better but thats life.

People on both sides of this have been flamin' when it is un-needed.

This is the sort of thing makes CNZ unapealing to new people thinking of joining, who would want to join a forum that always fights?
Not only is it putting of new people it is also making existing forum members want to leave. All because of petty stuff like font size.

I personally think that text should be readable. There are other ways to be unique guys.

This is just getting over the top. we should all get over ourselves....seriously.

I hope no one is offended by this but i just needed to say that.

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I don't see the point of me being on here I'm so angry with myself for saying such horrible things and offending admin-tan v.v;;

By Willuknight. 16/08/09, 12:52 pm

MissEevee wrote:

Admin wrote:: 8D

Posts are made to communicate information. Not to be aesthetically pleasing.

and hair is there to protect and warm your head.
doesn't mean you don't want it to look nice too.

Will: do you really think i have a problem arguing anything logically?
i have been nothing but logical up to this point.
logically, the question is pointless because we'd need to define legible.
of course people don't wany illegible posts in their forums!
mine aren't illegible, and this is my point and has been all along.
i think the poll question should accurately reflect the situation, that's all.
i'm sure you think the same.

i have even said that i give in.
how is that obstructive in any way?
and it has been quite blatantly aimed at me.
please don't try to argue that point any more, because there's no way this whole thing has been aimed at anyone else.

Evee, my comment was not specifically directed at you, please don't treat it as such.

This issue has been aimed at people that do this, regardless of who does it, it won't be the first time and their needs to be something set in place so that when people do have a complaint about this behaviour, then there is a preestablished policy.

I would like to say that your post is far easier to read now.

By MissEevee. 16/08/09, 12:54 pm

Itachi: that's what i tried to do. i tried to end the whole thing by saying i'd be happy to use size11 because it's apparently easier to read than my original font.
i said this on the first page.

but that wasn't good enough for a long time.
so then i gave up entirely, which still hasn't been good enough because i'm notw apparently trying to cause drama.

so what do i do?
is there no right option?

By **JVCA**. 16/08/09, 12:54 pm

@Kiki: The reason why companies don't allow their employees to talk about the company to the media is because they know their employees will nine times out of ten make things worse. I understand that MissEevee is your friend, and you want to defend her - but let her speak for herself. She's perfectly capable, and though you don't mean to, you are making it worse for her by posting antagonistic commentary. sweatdrop

I think you now realise this though - Syne is right in that you do need to reread your post before making it (even I'm guilty of doing this from time to time though. orz) :)

@MissEevee: I'm sorry that this has blown up so much, but I think that this thread has made it clear that though it might seem a trivial thing, obviously people find it problematic enough to get passionate about it. The poll now denotes a 12 person margin - I think this is also a case in point.

Having said that - I'm glad to hear that you're willing to compromise - and I do think the change of 'small' to being 11pt is a very reasonable solution for both sides.

By Willuknight. 16/08/09, 12:57 pm

I'm sure most people won't mind size 11, but PLEASE no centeredness outside of signatures

By MissEevee. 16/08/09, 12:58 pm

JVCA: i won't take the poll as proof now, if only because i think that the question doesn't reflect the issue at all.
but i see what you mean.

three people so far have become very...heated about this whole thing.
and while i think it's stupid, they obviously don't.
i've been trying to make that compromise since page one!
hence why i feel like it's been very personalised, considering that i suggested a reasonable solution so early on that was ignored by everyone but mods.

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8D i voted that it didn't matter, i think people should be able to originate there self even online, & if this rule go's through then I'll hold a protest agents such an
Restricting thing.

Do you really expect people to wanna all be the same & so what if YOU can't read there post? are you really missing out on anything at all, People post to be heard & it's up to them how much they want to be heard. If there font color blinds you or if there font size is to small it's really up to you to change that, they shouldn't have to change there ways just because of a few people.

This is how i used to post & i think i'll start up again, See i didn't really care if you could read this part or not 8DDD

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