Corset?!

By Kitten Slave. 18/11/08, 08:47 am

I said that WONT get me kicked out of the place!
Contain your self dear...

Suspect

By Static. 18/11/08, 08:52 am

Well, you're the one who just got himself a castration order and then agreed to my twisted demands. You have only yourself to blame for anything that happens here on in.

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This is completely unrelated to corsets; but I just wanted to say I love all of you gaiz and your banter. chuu~!

now that I've thoroughly embarrassed you all, from my brief research about making-

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[has none]

good luck, I guess, is all I can say. 8D;

By Princess Eve. 25/11/08, 04:21 am

corcets suck to high heaven if theyre not fited rite. a massave (the only tip i no is) make sure its long enough and tite at the botom or it curls up underneath and stabs the hell outa ur stomach not nice. i recomend wearing ur trial one for a super long time to see how bad it gets. that FGM stuff is gorgeous!! totaly want!

By Kitten Slave. 25/11/08, 04:33 am

Aurellion wrote:: This is completely unrelated to corsets; but I just wanted to say I love all of you gaiz and your banter.

Go ahead static, I dare you!
whee

By Static. 25/11/08, 07:00 am

Who, me? *innocent*

Love you too, 'rellie~

By mightydelemma. 30/12/08, 04:47 am

best corset pattern i have is a winefred Aldrich pattern (sp?)
of a historical Victorian corset which i chop and change as i need it.
it takes about 16 steal bones (or plastic depending on preference) and a busk in the front. the hardest part is the busk but the rest is easy

By mightydelemma. 30/12/08, 04:53 am

Static wrote:: Simplicity 5726 is the pattern. Just do the eyelets first, try it on and modify as needed. And you don't want to tightlace just yet! I can only lose an inch off my waist measurement before breathing becomes a BIG ISSUE. Also, EVERYBODY has boobs in a corset.

they so do. in a corset i use mine as a shelf, and take about 2/4 inches off my waist its not sujested to go any further than 4 even in tightlacing unless you want to spend the rest of your life in a corset. plus from there you start moving organs.

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I have a really good Corset Pattern I bought from Laughing Moon Mercantile: Laughing Moon

It is really easy to sew and if you still have no idea what to do, you can get a VERY helpful DVD that shows you how to sew and fit a corset! I till have my DVD somewhere....lol

It is a Great Pattern and has two different kinds of Corsets in it...Dore and Silverado...
The one I made was Silverado, but as I haven't got any pliers yet, I can't finish it until I can cut the boning (which I got from Here

Also if you are want to, there are alot of places where you can get Victorian Patterns from to make an actual Victorian Garb...Here is one to look at: Truly Victorian Patterns

Random info for anyone really, I spend way too much time looking through sites like those, as I am a Costumer/reenactor at heart...lol

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By Re-l. 30/12/08, 10:47 am

The corset is going to look silly, it will be like, wrapping a peice of fancy cloth around a plank of wood.

What's the point in having a corset if it dosn't squeeze your organs, manipulate your bone structure and turn you into a human hour glass?

Hips, Boobs(which you, my dear duckeh, lack) and a tight corset are the only way to accomplish aforementioned body disfigurement.

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I'm only kidding Duckz0rz, I'm sure you will look darn sexy if you get round to making the corset ;3

But srsly, if you looked like this I would disown you:
Corset?! - Page 2 Hourglass

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Sunday Best Crap!! Where did you find that Picture!!!!!!!!!!

That is just wrong, so very very very very very very very very very Wrong...Very wrong...

Did I say it was very wrong? Coz it is...

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By mightydelemma. 31/12/08, 03:48 am

i'm not quite that bad. heheh but it is suppose to give you the Correct proportion hip waist to boob raitio which is around 30% different (ie 100cm bust 70cm waist 100cm hip)
so that in truth is what i aim for i'm close buy myself but this wellington greesy life style has killed my waist. but thats why we have corsets... hehehe

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Re-l wrote:: But srsly, if you looked like this I would disown you:

She has a figure like an hour glass... It takes an hour to figure out what it is. Suspect

By Kitten Slave. 31/12/08, 05:47 am

W.T.F??

I mean... like.... No. Just no.

silent

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Is... is that a guy or a girl? And WTF? happened to their legs?

And there isn't a "Correct" proportion for your waist! Back in Victorian times the "correct" size for your waist was 18 inches (if I crank my tape measure REALLY tight I can get 34). Having a waist that's 70% of your hips has scientifically been shown to be sexier in Western (but not African or South American or traditional Polynesian) society but health wise the most important range seems to be a waist that's 60-80% of your hips.

Am not going back to thinking about thesis yet...

By lysistrata. 31/12/08, 08:00 am

Most modern corsetiers recommend making your corset 2-6 inches smaller than your waistline, and beginners should avoid tightlacking waist cinchers and longline victorians. I believe if the garment isn't designed to mold and shape the body it's a bustier rather than a corset.

My cosplaying friend is a corsetiere and dedicated tightlacer, though she's a lot prettier than the fellow in the picture :)

My first corset came from Gallery Serpentine, which is a beautiful shop in Sydney who also order online through www.galleryserpentine.com - they're skillfully made, beautiful detailing, and allow custom fittings. Mine's a Lucretia forest green brocade with black lace detailing. As good as FairyGothMother or Vollers overseas for 1/3 the cost. I'm thinking seriously of ordering the femme fatale skulls brocade from their limited edition page.

By Re-l. 31/12/08, 08:02 am

@u_ne_korn
It's neither, It's a whole entirely new species.
IT has plastic legs!
Like a Barbie Doll!

My figure beats the hour glass figure any day.

I call it the "Almost morbidly obese" figure.
Like so:
Corset?! - Page 2 Etgfar10

I am one sexy Mofo.

By Static. 31/12/08, 10:27 am

SilkSpectre - I want that pattern! I almost bought it along with ten metres of steel boning, but then the dollar died and now I can not afford it.

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@Static: Its such a great Pattern!! I bought my Pliers today so I can finish it! LOL
I just bought a Bustle Pattern from Lafnmoon, it has 3 kinds in it, just in case my ass isn't big enough to give the effect of a Bustle! LOL

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By Static. 31/12/08, 02:52 pm

Lmao - I love bustles so much. I have a prominent ass anyway, but this way, it's SUPPOSED to knock stuff over when I walk by!

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rotfl!!
ahh the buit-in-bustle can only work to a Point! LOL
I bought one of the Hats from TrulyVictorian the other day, I wont get it until after they make it for me, but its gunna look great! Very Happy

:D

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By neimhaille. 02/01/09, 09:25 am

Is that Kathy Jung? One of the few genuine tight lacers. Very few women in history laced that small. Read anything by Valerie Steele if you want a truer indication of how corsets were worn throughout history (the 18" waist is a bit of a myth and very very very few women wanted or achieved it). Much of the horror stories you read about are from an ongoing series of letters between fetishists of the 19thC. The English Woman's Domestic.. something I think is where they mostly wrote to each other. Oh and there is a great quote in Fashion and Reality from a corset maker in the 1880s. Something along the lines of how young ladies take great delight in announcing the diminuitiveness of their corsets yet have to leave them open 4, 6 or even 8 inches in the back ;)

Corsets of the 19thC need to be open in the back from 2-4 inches when worn so you can see how a tiny little corset can look very different when actually worn. They can then be laced closer or looser depending on what they are worn under.

If you want a cheap pattern to start get out Corsets and Crinolines by Nora Waugh from the library. She has scaled patterns of corsets from the 16th to 20thC and they work really well.
The main thing to remember with them is to make the bust and hips a little larger than you think and the waist smaller. You are squishier through the waist and what is displaced there gets squished down and up. You aslso don't want to swish the bust and hips or you lose the hourglass effect. I learnt that with my first corset using C&C. I now basically make it up almost unaltered from the pattern.

As for boning you can use steel if you want to order it but if you use a good busk you can use cable ties for the rest of it. Steels at the back near the lacing and steel at the front in the form of a busk will give enough support. At the side you want to havea lot of flex though so you get that shape. ANd you can easily and cheaply replace the boning if it does get out of shape. One of the main reasons why people dislike plastic boning now is that it is used the same way as steel, and it shouldn't. It should be used the same was as baleen which is very soft in thin strips and does eventually mold to the body. You need twice as many boning channels for plastic/baleen as you do for steel. At least.

I have a few corsets, need to remake my 1880s-90s and make a Romantic era one too, and they all use plastic boning. Never had an issue. That said my Effigy stays (c1603 from Elizabeth I's effigy) is fully boned meaning there are no gaps of fabric anywhere. It has not deformed or anything.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0201.larson.html
http://valeriesteelefashion.com/blog/category/publications/
There may be some material that parents would find objectionable because sadly as mentioned above many historians have used "evidence" from some rather specialist communication! Nothing graphic just that it touches on why this material is suspect and should not be used in fashion history.

Oh when making them it's a little easier than an outer garment because these are made to shape you, not be shaped to you!

By Static. 02/01/09, 09:33 am

neimhaille wrote:: Oh when making them it's a little easier than an outer garment because these are made to shape you, not be shaped to you!

I do believe this is the best quote I've ever seen summing up what a corset is :3 I think I'm going to have to go hunt down that Nora Waugh tomorrow...

By mightydelemma. 06/01/09, 01:14 am

they shape you because all the people getting paid for sewing were men. and they couldnt make things fit the female form so the controlled it so they could.
thank got we all moved away from the tudor corsets they are painful IMHO

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