Can The West Cosplay With The Best Of Them?

By Doughtnut_Bandit. 29/12/09, 03:59 am

Just thought this article might make a good read for all.

http://kotaku.com/5432053/can-the-west-cosplay-with-the-best-of-them

I think it brings up a few interesting points :)

By Kitten Slave. 29/12/09, 04:23 am

Mmm, well, I think that in general westerners suit a certain type of cosplay - in much the way different people are better suited to certain characters. Same goes for Asians.
Lets face it, I aint ever gonna fit just about any serious character (barring the every anime has one stereotypical slightly unshaved "lecherous photographer" character stare

)

All said... Damn... Those Neko girls...
whee

By CMKMStephens. 29/12/09, 04:24 am

The Twins from Dominion Tank Police

Mmm...

By Kitten Slave. 29/12/09, 04:31 am

By Doughtnut_Bandit. 29/12/09, 04:37 am

CMKMStephens wrote:: The Twins from Dominion Tank Police

Mmm...

I was surprised too!

BTW, love your avatar XD

By sakuramiyabi. 29/12/09, 04:40 am

Their point is true. I am asian. I am unabashedly racist somethimes ~~alot~~. But its true 83. There is no better group there is only skill

By CMKMStephens. 29/12/09, 04:42 am

Doughtnut_Bandit wrote:: BTW, love your avatar XD

It's only fitting given hers Can The West Cosplay With The Best Of Them? 65988

By Pyro. 29/12/09, 04:42 am

The Ivy cosplayer shown in the comments was hot. xDDD

Anyway. That article brought up some good points, yeah. Really, all it comes down to is cosplay to suit your body type and don't try to wear skimpy outfits if you're huge, or you're adding more fuel to the 'western cosplayers suck' fire. 8D

(wait a second, why am I cosplaying Motochika again...? lol, I'm a hypocriiite. xD)

By Cactiberry. 29/12/09, 04:43 am

Hurr. It's kind of like, anyone can cosplay whoever they like - but they not necessarily should sweatdrop

I've seen a lot of fights about whether or not "Westies" can cosplay, and a lot of racist videos viciously tearing down western cosplayers merely because they aren't asian and thus are being 'disrespectful' by cosplaying.
I enjoyed reading the article, and agree with many of the things in it.
Mkay, that's my four cents, bahahaha...

By sakuramiyabi. 29/12/09, 04:45 am

isnt it two cents lizzi? Can The West Cosplay With The Best Of Them? 37781

lol jk

//pours labu on 8D

By Kitten Slave. 29/12/09, 04:50 am

Rofl, just reading the comments... Porkachu was mint!
Razz

By Le_Saboteur. 29/12/09, 04:52 am

kagerouhi wrote:: There is no better group there is only skill

This pretty much sums up every thing I think about this subject Very Happy

I have seen amazing cosplayers come from all parts of the world.

By Cactiberry. 29/12/09, 04:54 am

kagerouhi wrote:: isnt it two cents lizzi? lol jk

//pours labu on 8D

Bahahaha >>'
It's four cents in America....or it was...
8D Whatever, the meaning got across!

By sakuramiyabi. 29/12/09, 05:12 am

//pours labu on lizzi 8D

@Kitten: tell me you agree with this sentence otherwise i will be VERY concerned 8D

Quote :: Can't we all just get along and agree
that incredibly hot girls, whether Japanese or not, dressing up like
skimpily dressed anime and videogame characters is a beautiful thing?

By Kitten Slave. 29/12/09, 05:26 am

That is the subtle hint I am making.
Irrespective of how "good" or "bad" the costume or costumer is, if you put something like those two catgirls in something that barely qualifies as a costume (barely, because there isnt very much of it whee

), then it is inevitably going to end up being an "awesome" costume to everything with a penor (and a good number without it would seem).

*shrug*

Hey, I am still a male after all.

Razz

That said, I think that a lot of the folk on here make better/really good costumes because lets face it, while wearing a one piece swimsuit/bikini to a con will get you attention, it does not exactly constitute the worlds most intricate costume.

By Pura. 29/12/09, 05:40 am

... DOES ONLY AMERICA APPLY AS NON-ASIAN COSPLAYERS? D:

... Anyway.

I think that it comes down to skill. And Asian cosplayers generally put in more effort than some of the American cosplayers do ...

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I agree with that article about the photos. You don't see many bad Asian cosplays because they don't get photographed.

I read an article a few months back about the negative purpose of cosplay in Korea. Basically, people don't make costumes because they don't have time so they get them shipped in from Japan and China or get them commissioned really cheaply and made quite well.
They don't cosplay for the same purposes as Westerners do. Rather, they try to be as elaborate as possible to get the attention of photographers in hopes making something out of it. Since there are a limited number of photographers compared to the amount of cosplayers, the cosplayers basically compete to be better than other cosplayers at the convention. It's not uncommon to see cosplayers bringing a fully decorated table along with matching Victorian tea sets if they're cosplaying from Kuroshitsuji : /

By Kat. 29/12/09, 06:02 am

I think its really a thing of skill which also applies to the ability to pick suitable cosplays which the asian sides seem to do better

since you can have the most amazing costume but if your 200 pounds and and your character is 30 pounds it wont matter how good the costume is people will only see the difference in weight

By Doughtnut_Bandit. 29/12/09, 07:01 am

syill wrote:: I agree with that article about the photos. You don't see many bad Asian cosplays because they don't get photographed.

A good portion or their good ones get photo shopped as well, that sometimes can make quite the impact on a cosplay photo.

By Blooberry. 29/12/09, 07:09 am

Cosplay is like a waffle.
It doesn't matter where it's cooked, and sometimes it doesn't look so good but it always tastes delicious. <3

...8D

[side note] As of today I own 'The Otaku Encyclopedia'
The sum it up: KAWAII KAWAII MAIDS HENTAI KAWAII KAWAII PRETTY GIRLS DESU.

By neimhaille. 29/12/09, 02:58 pm

The article was excellent. The comments ignorant for the most part. For one thing most 501st armour is made as kits by a small number of people... this is why there is such a cohesive look- and you can start to tell who made what over time.

Anyway, all costuming should be treated the same as the base skills are the same- an eye for fit and shape and to understand how it works on the human body. And I see a lot of poorly fitted and made items all over the world.

By Doughtnut_Bandit. 30/12/09, 05:53 am

neimhaille wrote:: The article was excellent. The comments ignorant for the most part.

Yeah, you get that on sites sometimes, but not all the people there are that bad ^^ (For example me XD)

But I just thought it was a good read and has some interesting examples of perspective from all sides.

By H-idenshi. 30/12/09, 10:00 am

Isn't the entire basis of the article missing the mark entirely? They are almost speaking like cosplay is fundamentally something with the purpose of pleasing others...

It's my personal opinion but, who cares what the perspective of others is... are you not merely materializing your 2D desires / creating an embodiment of how you perceived said character / becoming ONE with said character lol (;ﾟ∀ﾟ)=3ﾊｧﾊｧ
Isn't it what the action of cosplay in itself means to you personally that is important? Isn't it the otaku way in striving to forge your own path? (Isn't the act of denying my opinion the very representation of this idea... wait that'd mean agreeing causes argument failure... nuuuu logic collapse ≧∇≦；；；)

My 1 cent (yes because my opinion is cheap ヽ(´―｀)ノ☆）

(As a side note: I've never personally considered those so called cosplay professionals in Japan anything other than models seeking the limelight. Not saying that is a bad thing, but to an extent it causes ideological incompatibility. Of course it's understandable that cosplay be used in such a way to form ones identity and build communities etc -> which gives rise to a natural process of cosplay = for showing... but nonetheless ┐(´∀｀)┌*shrug*)

By Doughtnut_Bandit. 30/12/09, 06:57 pm

Maybe it's because it's 3am and I just got home from work, and that you use weird symbols and such but I think you may have missed the point of the article.

And what's that about being an otaku and forging your own path? You may have to shed some light on that one.

By H-idenshi. 31/12/09, 10:59 am

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