William Gibson's Idoru By Lowkey. 25/01/10, 05:26 am |
| I finished reading this a couple of days ago - it's the first Gibson I've read, for some reason or another, but I was wondering if anybody else had read it. It's set in a futuristic post-earthquake Japan and is more or less about a rockstar who's going to marry an "Idoru", which is in many ways like a Vocaloid, a pop idol program / AI. The following paragraph especially amused me; I put it under spoiler tags just in case but it's not really much of a spoiler at all.
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"Masahiko is seventeen," Mitsuku said. "He is a 'pathological-techno-fetishist-with-social deficit,'" this last all strung together like one word, indicating a concept that taxed the lexicon of the the earclips. Chia wondered briefly if it would be worth running it through her Sandbenders, whose translation function updated automatically whenever she ported. "A what?" "Otaku," Mitsuko said carefully in Japanese. The translation burped its clumsy word string again. "Oh," Chia said. "We have those. We even use the same word." "I think that in America they are not the same," Mitsuko said. "Well," Cia said. "It's a boy thing, right? The otaku guys at my last school were into, like, plastic anime babes, military simulations, and trivia. Bigtime into trivia." She watched Mitsuko listen to the translation. "Yes," Mitsuko said, "but you say they go to school. Ours do not go to school. They complete their studies on-line, and this is bad, because they cheat easily. Then they are tested, later, and are caught, and fail, but they do not care. It is a social problem."
I enjoy the translator program's original attempt at the word otaku greatly. But yeah, the book's probably close on 14 years old which is centuries for technology but the age actually doesn't really show very much - I'm sure with the MMO thing and ipods and the increasingly powerful mobile internet options around now it would be a different book if it were written now, but still. It's interesting to have sites rendered as VR places and read descriptions of people's avatars and some of the traditions involved. And of course Post-Earthquake Japan is very novel. What interested me is that like Tea From an Empty Cup the author of which's name has skipped my mind for the moment also plays in Japan - to an extent. Both show Japan as cutting edge when it comes to VR, AI, and other technologies, but Tea makes it a mystical thing, where pure blood Japanese are rare and their country is entirely destroyed post Earthquake, and Idoru is much more practical about it.
So, anybody read either, or anything in the same vein?
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Re: William Gibson's Idoru By Guest. 25/01/10, 05:56 am |
| I haven't read Idoru but I've read Neuromancer which is also by William Gibson.
Neuromancer is probably my favorite book I've read so I find it a bit strange I haven't gotten around to reading any of his other books, Idoru sounds like something I'll definately have to look out for.
I'd try explain the plot to Neuromancer but I've never been good at explaining it to my friends so I'll just highly recommend that it's something you should read. |
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Re: William Gibson's Idoru By Lowkey. 25/01/10, 06:02 am |
| - Butterfly Edge wrote:
- I'd try explain the plot to Neuromancer but I've never been good at explaining it to my friends so I'll just highly recommend that it's something you should read.
I keep meaning to. I have his and Bruce Sterling's Difference Engine lying on my bedside table for now, though. Steam!cyberpunk? Really? Could it get cooler?
And my netbook is called Neuromancer. Just waiting for it to evolve its own sentience, really. |
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Re: William Gibson's Idoru By Le_Saboteur. 25/01/10, 11:08 am |
| Sounds interesting, I'll have to check it out.
Have you ever read the Otherland series by Tad Williams? I think you might enjoy it. I guess you could call it almost-cyberpunk, it's largely set in an online world in which the protagonists are trapped. It's a fairly long series (four books, each averaging maybe 700 pages), but it's well worth it. |
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Re: William Gibson's Idoru By Lowkey. 26/01/10, 11:06 am |
| - Le_Saboteur wrote:
- Sounds interesting, I'll have to check it out.
Have you ever read the Otherland series by Tad Williams? I think you might enjoy it. I guess you could call it almost-cyberpunk, it's largely set in an online world in which the protagonists are trapped. It's a fairly long series (four books, each averaging maybe 700 pages), but it's well worth it. This Otherland sounds interesting - once you've read all of The Wheel of Time (sans the 12th, have to re-read the rest first kfjdfhdj) four 700-page books is water under the bridge. (Actually, I thought your signature's Game of Thrones was WoT's Daes Dae'mar / Game of Houses for a bit there). Kind of .Hack // Legend of the Twilight-esque?
Having been banned from MMOs by my parents after an apparent addiction to Ragnarok Online and meeting my ex boyfriend there, Virtual Reality holds a special interest for me, especially when Artificial Intelligences are involved. Everything from the names and faces we chose to the differences between online behaviour and real life, or when / where they merge... Tea From An Empty Cup's virtual-japan and VR-caused deaths or marrying an Idoru examples of such. Iunno, this is a subject I'd love to explore for a novel of my own one day. <__< |
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Re: William Gibson's Idoru By CamusCanDo. 17/04/10, 09:31 am |
| Oh damn, I just wrote up a list of my favourite authors and totally missed out William Gibson. I've not read Idoru but I have been meaning to for years. I know it's been a while since the last post but it's almost compulsary that you read Gibson's Sprawl Trilogy if you're into cyberpunk, which I know from your posts I don't have to tell you Also cool, a WoT fan! If I can recommend something in the same vein as Gibson's work it'd have to be Jeff Somers Avery Cates series, starting with Electric Church. |
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